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      CommentAuthorSimon H
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007 edited
     
    I was looking at David Stall's KAP photos on Flickr a while ago http://www.flickr.com/photos/stall/ , and saw his simple method of using a few bits of string to support his camera for vertical and near vertical shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stall/394953195/in/set-72157594542375845/

    This got me thinking and ended up with a simple prototype handkerchief rig known as a kaperchief..... (yeah - I know)

    kaperchief2

    This simple approach to supporting a camera has a couple of neat benefits: It can support a camera with no tripod mount. It can fold up in your pocket. It is handy for those whose skills lean towards kitemaking rather than bending alloy strips and nuts and bolts.

    Judicious placement of sew- on velcro strips will keep the camera in place:
    kaperchief

    Essentially the concept is very adaptable and very adjustable, simply clamping the support lines in a particular position will allow the camera to be angled. If you need more stability it is perfectly possible to insert a cross piece in at the corners to create a "picavet".

    Different sizes and weights of cameras just require a bigger or smaller kaperchief.

    If you are using a Gentled it can go inside or outside on velcro or in a little pouch with a snap fastener or velcro. You can cut a hole for the IR detector, or not bother, my Gentled shines through the cloth perfectly well.

    Some testing and refining to do but here's the concept. Expert kitemakers - heres your chance to sew yourself a rig !
    • CommentAuthorBruce too
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    Nice one Simon, this one has wings, pockets sewn to kites, neat little square bag to cut down windage. Even has parachute attachment points. Brillant.
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    Brilliant! This concept causes a brainstorm for further developments.
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      CommentAuthorSimon H
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007 edited
     
    This one as shown (sewn?) is really very much the proof-of-concept - I've thrashed it around and shaken it and really like the way it responds and cradles the camera. It would be very easy to modify, and optimise in all sorts of ways, but for verticals and near verticals it already is pretty optimal. I've bought yards and yards of different fabrics offcuts, from thin felts, velvets, satin, and ripstop to try out. Cotton hankerchief type fabric though really seems as good as any.
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    This is absolutely brilliant, Simon! I really have to admire its simplicity.
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    Wow. I like that!

    I wonder if the cloth helps dampen vibrations?
    • CommentAuthorjmi
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    That will make international travel a whole lot easier.
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    How well do you think it would work hanging from a single point instead of a Picavet, Simon?
    • CommentAuthorMichael L
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    There you go Simon, thinking outside the box again. I love it! Keep up the good work! Can't wait to see what the next KAP tidbit will be......
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      CommentAuthorSimon H
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007 edited
     
    Dave, I've considered the picavet suspension as a "simplest" approach to this, but I did also consider a drawstring pouch approach with single line suspoension, I also considered attaching to a basic silly putty mechanism for rotation. Part of the advantage of the version shown is the ease of setting up, you can attach it to the line without the camera, so it is quite safe, set up the camera away from the "rig", then drop it in, close the velcro and fly it .Tthat is easier with the square four point supension than with a single line. Also I think it adds a bit of picavet-like stability without having a rigid square. The velcro attached behind the camera creates a bit of a "spine" for the picavet effect. (see illustration at top of the thread.) I tried a version with small velcro spot closures but this brought all the corners very close together.

    I suspect single line suspension will spin too quickly for decent results. But then with a KAPfeather type vane it could hold position, but then it wouldn't be so simple.
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    So, are we ready for a new entry in the wikiKAP? kaperchief?

    I'm not sure how one angles the camera, such that it would not point straight down.
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      CommentAuthorSimon H
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007 edited
     
    Its mainly for verticals but as I said:
    "Essentially the concept is very adaptable and very adjustable, simply clamping the support lines in a particular position will allow the camera to be angled. "

    Remember this is not designed or intended to replace r/c positioning Brad.

    Before it goes in the wiki - lets see if people build it, like the concept, enjoy flying it/ In other words let it earn its place.
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      CommentAuthorWicherd
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    I love simple Simon!
    Really a great find.

    A little tweak just popped into my mind..think: flowform, kite bag.....
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      CommentAuthorSimon H
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    Well, yes if you want to fly a big kite, I tend to think - litle delta. But yes, cut a hole in the flowform bag and hang it up there with a camera in it !!!
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    How about a FF8 as the kite, another one as the rig and a third one as (sand) anchor? OK, a kaperchief is less expensive.
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    Ooops. It's too late. I already made an entry in the wikiKAP for kaperchief.

    So many people are enthused about it. Who will be our pioneers?

    Regarding small Flowform usage as a rig, wouldn't a lot of bridle lines get in the way?

    Besides, someone said the holes on the bottom of the FF are for birds, no? :-)
    • CommentAuthorBruce too
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007 edited
     
    A while ago I nearly cut a lens hole in the nice suede Pentax case so I could lash the case and camera to an inflatable, common sense prevailed. After seeing Simons new Kaperchief I made a case for my S4, 4 loops sewn in so I can lash the camera to anything we fly. The case and lines weigh 6 grammes (.2oz) the all up weight 140 grames.
    The case has windows hot cut in all the required places so the camera can be operated without opening the velcro fastened case.
    Thanks for that Simon, you have shown the way again.
    Yesterday we test flew mushrooms :-)
    lash rig 008
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    Add some small pulleys and you have a perfect Gentles style Picavet! Great stuff, guys.
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    I love the simplicity of Simon's and Bruce's designs. Even I understand it.

    I wonder how Bruce's or Simon's type of rig setup would be with some light-weight bubble wrap around most the camera. The bubble wrap would cushion the camera in the event of an unplanned landing. Bubble wrap isn't that heavy, is it?

    I haven't had a camera crash <knock on wood>.
    • CommentAuthorBruce too
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007 edited
     
    Brad I personally do not worry too much about camera's crashing but if flying close to solid stuff I sometimes use a rig which fully encloses the camera. Silly not to give the camera a fighting chance.
    It also keeps light rain off the camera.

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/431224775_d3549f6d5e_o.jpg
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      CommentAuthorSimon H
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007
     
    Even though I have dropped a camera, I would never bother adding anything special to a rig to protect a camera from impacts. It just doesn't figure on my list of worthwhile additions. But, having for example safety lines at key pivot points and as a backup to the tripod attachment makes a lot of sense though and I often use them to prevent drops. But if the drop happens, parachutes, foam packing, bubble wrap - no.
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007
     
    I still like the idea of a bit of precaution. My brooks basic rig has some long legs on it that should help cushion falls to some extent.

    But I guess if one buys a no-fault extended warranty, then that would help put allay some concerns.
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     
    Is anyone trying this handkerKAP, or is it KAPerchief?
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    Yep, mine is almost finished.

    KAPerchief in the making
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    Finished. Some nice weather is promised for tomorrow.

    KAPerchief finished
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     
    Thanks for posting the photos, Peter!

    With the pulleys, you cannot really tilt the angle of the camera, can you?

    What are the KAPklips (TM), please? I haven't added that to the Jargon List.

    -Brad
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    Simon, this is simply brilliant. Bravo to Bruce & Peter.
    Peter since your rig is made with some Ripstop leftover from a FF Becot modification you should sell a package "Becotized FF + kaperchief +GentLED360 Auto + wide X-type Picavet with pulleys+- KAPklips (TM)" !!!
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      CommentAuthorbroox
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     
    The KAPklipâ„¢ is a new (to KAP) device not unlike a safety pin, for hanging a Picavet from the kite line. They are available on www.kapshop.com and on my site too.

    http://www.brooxes.com/
    • CommentAuthorBruce too
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2007 edited
     
    Nice one Peter, I like the enclosed Gentled Auto.
    The clips I used to fasten my effort to the line are just stainless steel clips as used on fishing swivels. I have tested these clips to 65lb load, the clips stretched a touch but did not fail. The clips are larks headed onto the kite line.
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      CommentAuthorSimon H
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2007
     
    Peter, if you make 2 of the fabric pieces on which the pulleys are mounted adjustable length with pop fasteners or velcro you will get adjustable angle to about 45 degrees.

    I like the implementation. its certainly neater than the kaperchief.

    Generically I think these could be classed as "soft rigs" !
    • CommentAuthorBruce too
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007
     
    I got to flying the little red rig at a target today, the set-up works well and I can see myself making a lot more use of the "soft rig".
    Today we had a very turbulent wind and the rig was quite lively however there were still plenty of in focus shots.

    Head on.
    • CommentAuthorRJoe
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2007
     
    Brilliant! I am going to mention this set up in thesis as an alternative low cost picavet replacement! I tip my hat to the inventiveness on this, and another to RITZ cameras and the like for providing "all hazards" warranties on cameras :-)

    Bruce I concur that the term "soft rig" is a great name for the family of platforms. And the forms like "KAPerchief" as a subset of the "soft rigs". In a pinch, like the legendary garbage bag and duct tape rokkaku's, one could pull one of these together pretty quickly. And if the camera will do the GSAKap trick with Gorilla tape on the shutter release you could get a kite up in the air pretty quickly.

    Now that would be a competition for the next KAPica. Provide garbage bags, tape, sticks, line and a handkerchief and see who is up the first and getting photos.

    R. Joe
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      CommentAuthorblbarnes
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2007
     
    Is anyone else trying the simple KAPerchief rig?
    • CommentAuthorFabfoto
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2008 edited
     
    I stumbled on this old post and was inspired with it, as I needed a solution to hold my A570IS camera with a FC E8 fisheye lens. I was a bit pragmatic, and assembled it using a little bag for mobile devices.
    Here is my version of a soft rig:
    soft rig
    and:
    soft rig 2
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      CommentAuthorbroox
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2008
     
    Looks good, Fabian. It's off-topic, but how do you like the FC-E8 with the 570? Do you get a full circle?
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      CommentAuthorMNkiteman
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2008
     
    I can see where this could be used in subzero whether with a little insulation added between the camera and an oversize case.
    • CommentAuthorFabfoto
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2008
     
    @broox: When zoomed out, I do get a full circle. The circle is however a bit below the center of the picture, leaving little space between the circle and the edge of the picture. As expected, the edges are a bit soft, and there is often some blue fringing. When zoomed in 1 step (the a570is has 7 zoom steps I learned), the circle comes outside the picture.

    @MNKiteman: An option I thought of was to use a plastic box e.g. used for salads, were you could easily cut a hole in the bottom, With a cover it would be a bit resistant against water.

    Fabian.
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      CommentAuthorbroox
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2008
     
    Thanks!
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      CommentAuthorSue
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2010 edited
     
    As I'm flying to Majorca on holiday soon, I made two KAPerchiefs.
    A vertical one
    SUE'S vertical KAPERCHIEF (2)
    And a horizontal one.
    SUE'S HORIZONTAL KAPERCHIEF (1)
    They weigh 32 grams each and 36 g with the bag closer which keeps the strings from tangling.
    The horizontal one has the hole cut off centre. Compare the two.
    BOTH KAPERCHIEFS
    I'm taking the Power Sled 14 because it's very compact and weighs only 175 g. All of the sparred kites are to long for the case. The total weight of kite + rigs is less than 250 g
    THE POWER SLED 14
    I hope they work OK.

    Fly High

    Sue